Sitting Pretty - Chapters 6 and 7

1. Are women discriminated in any way where you live? If so, what are some examples of discrimination faced by women in your local community or your country? 

2. Does kindness have any limits? If so, when should we stop being kind? If not, why?

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  1. 1. Are women discriminated in any way where you live? If so, what are some examples of discrimination faced by women in your local community or your country?
    honestly, as a male myself, i think we don't really understand how many things women have to struggle with. i think they're discriminated mostly in work enviroment, no matter how good woman can be at any profession, she's always gonna be compared to men. I also think women are really discriminated by our goverment, they can't really decide much about their bodies, their pregnancies and so on. I also think women get judged by their looks a lot which also makes it much more difficult for them, for example; a woman can be amazing at her work but her appearance is not appealing to her male workers so they always gonna push her down and she won't have much space to grow. Our society still is thinking in very stereotypical ways, they see women as a mother, full of hosework which makes it harder for them to grow and take care of themselves correctly, great buinsesswoman is always thought as " daddy's girl". They just don't accept the thought she got it all by herself, because she
    "she's just a woman".
    Does kindness have any limits? If so, when should we stop being kind? If not, why?
    I think that it depends on the person, someone may have unlimited kidness, someone not, also it depends on what we need to do to be kind. I mean If you need just open the door to be kind or something many of us would do that, but when we need to sacrifice something most of us wouldn't do that.

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  2. Oliwia Terenda, Nysa, PolandNovember 21, 2023 at 12:44 PM

    1. In Poland, women still face some injustice. One big issue is that women often get paid less than men for doing the same job. And when it comes to being in charge, women don't always get the same chances as men. You see fewer women in top jobs and politics. Plus, there are sometimes problems with women’s rights, including the right to abortion.

    2. Kindness is an amazing thing, but we have to understand that there are also some limits to it, and we should not cross the boundaries of other people, because it can result in an unpleasant situation rather than a nice act. There's welcomed kindness, which is the stuff that brightens someone's day.
    We have to understand that there is also something like ‘unwelcomed kindness’. Sometimes, what one person thinks is kind might not feel that way to someone else. Unwanted advances, intrusive actions, or pushing help onto someone who doesn't want it can turn kindness into an uncomfortable experience. It's crucial to be mindful of how our actions might be perceived and to respect others' boundaries.

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  3. Personally, as a Male, I think that women are getting almost the same treatment as man. However, we can still see injustice in many cases unfortunetly. For example women are more objectified that men which is in my opinion kind of gross, like they are still people and need respect. They also need to have right to decide about their bodies. Also there are a lot of people saying that for example women should not swear which is very delusional thing to even say. They use the same language as men so why shouldn't they? There are many injustice for women in our world, let's fight for the best for them.

    2. I think that we should spread kindness as much as we can, I personally love to make everyone's days as much as I can. Also small gestures, like opening doors in front of someone or even helping someone with some problems, big or not, doesn't matter. Not expected kindness is the most amazing and we should be kind to everyone and always. It's a powerful weapon!

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  4. Hi again, Dominik Benesz from Poland here! When it comes to discrimination, prejudice, injustice and etc. towards women, it's an obvious worldwide problem that women have to struggle with. Just as in any other country I can safely say that a great deal of women in Poland are subjected to this unfortunate matter. A lot of them are portrayed as very weak, both physically and mentally, and not qualified to work because it's man's job, to earn money. Furthermore, some are quite often seen as just housewives, sort of 'objects' that are meant to just look pretty, clean the house and bare children. Despite that, all those examples are just the tip of a massive (and I really mean massive) iceberg. Women are, on a very large scale, sexualised in various ways. This is absolutely unfair, personally, as they shouldn't endure gross comments - people ought to learn how to respect others. Moreover, when it comes to Poland, there has been a really long fight between women and government about abortion - faced very restrictive aborion laws. Additionally, they struggles with getting help as victims of domestic abuse, gender roles and many more. All in all, I pretty much stated the, well, more known and obvious problems that women face regarding discrimination. As a guy, it's quite difficult for me to put myself in their place and talk about it without experiencing it.

    Kindness is a simple but complex term to elaborate on. On its basis it means something nice, good, positive that was done for the other person. In my opinion, the complexity stems from the fact that, in reality, it can be endless. However, it's very theoreticall. In reality, there is no person that can show endless kindness to people, even if they tried their best. There will be a moment of doubt, moment when they do something that kills the meaning of kindness. Despite that, we should never stop trying our best to be as kind and reasonable as possible - giving complements, carrying grocieries for an old lady, you name it. There are endless possibilities of being kind but we will never be able to be endlessly kind, so we simply have to be as kind as possible.

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  5. 1.women are discriminated against in poland. There are many protests for equality for women and fighting for their rights and for the legalisation of abortion. Women are paid less than men and have fewer opportunities for higher positions in politics.
    2.I think kindness is the best thing, and there should be as much of it as possible. sometimes even a little kindness can make someone feel better and put a smile on their face. however, people are all different and sometimes they cannot show kindness in a good way. They may overstep certain boundaries and have the opposite effect. It is important to be sensible and cautious when showing kindness to another person.

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  6. Kacper Zybert (Poland, Nysa)
    1. I think for the most part females are treated equally to men, but unfortunately there are still a lot of cases of discrimination and injustice. For instance when a company looks for a professional electrician they will always choose a man, because it's a stereotype of "manly job". The funny part is these called "manly jobs" are called like this, because only men worked in the past and most women were housewives. Another example is even when a woman has the same education as a man, the company often pay the woman less than a man and women often have limited access to leadership roles and promotions.
    2. Kindness is needed in this world, but it has limits. The limit is reached when you violate personal boundaries, that is not to compromise one's well being. Another is that something you consider kind is the opposite to someone else or someone from a different culture also kindness should not be used in situation when being kind could result in harm or injustice to another. Despite these limits we shouldn't stop being kind, mistakes happen and we live to learn so we don't do them or analyse the situation more.

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  7. Sara Cybulska (PANS Nysa, Poland)

    1. Women often face discrimination at work, where stereotypes persist, such as the notion that certain jobs are reserved for men. For instance, household tasks or assisting roles are sometimes unfairly assigned to women. I am really happy that it is changing but in some households, there still is such discrimination.



    2. Kindness definitely has its limits. It gets messy when it's forced or fake. Back in primary school, there was this girl in a wheelchair. Instead of asking if she needed help, someone just grabbed her bag, thinking they were being nice. Turns out, she didn't want their help. So yeah, there's a point where kindness can backfire, especially if it's not genuine or respectful of someone's wishes.

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  8. Martyna Płonka (Poland)December 4, 2023 at 9:10 AM

    1. Women have to face discrimination on a daily basis. There are many issues with that everywhere, women are not treated equally in for example workplaces, get sexualized and catcalled by strangers on the street, and are told what their role in a family should be. When it comes to work, women have to constantly try really hard to “prove” themselves and i think that’s awful. The main problem in Poland is women’s rights especially when it comes to abortion.

    2. Being kind is a great personality trait although we shouldn’t be overly nice. When it comes to just simply being kind, it’s amazing, i think kindness is really important. But everything has its limits and so does kindness. If we want to help someone just because they “look like they need our help” it’s not always a good thing especially when the said person tells us that they don’t actually need it. We should be able to tell if a person is okay with our acts of kindness.

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  9. Agnieszka Skóra (Poland, Nysa)December 4, 2023 at 4:30 PM

    1. Unfortunately, there are many aspects in which women are discriminated. I mean, woman often get paid less than men even if they do the same job, woman does not occupy rather important places at work, public life. Jokes and memes are usually about women. Rarely about men. And one of the most important aspects, that is women's rights, is not respected and we often have to fight for them. It's better than it used to be, but you can still see discrimination.


    2. This is a very good feature. But I think it has its limits. We can not be too polite and even intrusive if someone does not want help, we must accept it. Despite good intentions, we can make someone sad and lead to misunderstandings.

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  10. Natalia Podgórna, Nysa/PolandDecember 6, 2023 at 8:13 AM

    Natalia Podgórna (Nysa/Poland)
    1. Unfortunately yes, women still are discriminated against in Poland. First thing that comes to my mind is workforce - women still are paid less and are hired less often than men. What is also important to mention is the fact that majority of Polish people are Cathlics and that vision of woman that conservative people uphold while absolutely damaging, is still rooted in their worldview. Women are very often getting sexualiesed and objectified in many ways - some of the comments that they get for example on their social media profiles or posts are simply disgusting. By many people we are still seen as less important than men. About healthcare - Polish abortion law is one of the strictest and was supported by conservative government. Talking about government and politics, there are a few "famous" politicians who freely talk offensive stuff about women, especially young women, and children and still are liked by right wing supporters, which is just sickening.
    But we can see things changing, so let's hope for the best.

    2. It's a very interesting topic, because often we just don't realise that our acts of kindness might be percieved in a different way than we see them. There definitely are limits to kindness. We should be very self-aware and cautious of our actions, because we may make someone feel very uncomfortable. Respecting other people' boundaries is the key here.

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  11. 1. In Ukraine, as in any other country, women may face discrimination, including physical, emotional, or sexual violence solely based on their gender. A significant number of women experience domestic violence, sexual harassment, and human trafficking. Moreover there are problems with employment based on stereotypes. Women are often underrepresented in leadership positions or just in business. 2. I believe that kindness knows no limits; it can be extended as far as one feels it's appropriate and has the necessary resources, both mentally and physically.

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  12. 1. From my experience women are far from being discriminated against, at least not counting some ridiculous parties like Confederacy. My mother always had the last word, despite having three sons and being the only women in house she took care of all of us, while working as a teacher and was always vocal about family decisions. When I was in primary/middle/high school pretty much the same thing, women were usually the ones taking positions like class representative or secretary, furthermore it was generally agreed upon that boys were the mischievous and physically strong ones but a bit dumber than girls, basing on academic results mostly. And when it comes to things like un-equal pay, I was always taught that if you are not being paid enough for your abilities you are not selling yourself well enough, there is a bit more to having better pay than just being a specific gender, and if there is any way an employer can pay you less you better believe they will try, no matter your gender.

    2. I don’t think kindness has limits, but not every attempt to help should be considered good. If someone needs help, they will ask for it, it’s nice if someone asks to help, but a simple gesture of kindness can be interpreted in a condescending manner or ridicule if combined with insecurity. And finally, sometimes people just need to overcome their own problems to grow and not rely on others. However, I would never blame someone for offering to help.

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  13. 1. Discrimination of women in Poland is mostly the hidden kind. The silent disregard and hurtful gender roles kind. But there have been recent protests on the topic of reproductive heathcare and the prices of childcare have reached the point of being unobtainable to many.
    2. I think kindness is at it's finest when it's not about being kind. When it's just about doing what feels right and not pushing it just to be kind. People deserve choice in accepting help and help uncalled for is no help at all.

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